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Rosann Simeroth's avatar

If the class will focus on friendship, love, and desire, I think it would be super interesting to read some Ovid as a counterpoint to these Stoic writers, especially selections from the Amores and Heroides. What are the limits of philosophy, of justice and honor, when confronted with love and desire? Is Ovid satirising some of the Stoic writers? Is he on their side?

Gregory B. Sadler's avatar

The class will NOT focus on friendship, love, and desire. I think you might need to reread the post

Patrick Gaughan's avatar

Dr. Sadler, I'm really appreciative that you are doing this. I've been interested in studying philosophy as a way of life for awhile now, and this year I finally decided to start reading the Ancient Stoic texts based off of your recommendations. I think studying virtue ethics in a class format will be very beneficial to my learning as this will keep me motivated to follow the class pacing and will provide some opportunities for discussion.

Gregory B. Sadler's avatar

Yes, there's lots of formats one can study matters in. A class works well for a lot of people, I think.

Christian  Richter's avatar

This looks excellent.

Emer's avatar

Hi and thank you in advance. Is there a reading list for the class? I may have missed it. So, for example, when you mentioned 'selections', here and there on the schedule, could you possibly send a reading list in advance for the exact selections? Thanks so much :)

Week 3: the Platonic tradition: Plato, The Meno, Protagoras (selections) (live class session)

Gregory B. Sadler's avatar

Emer. We are weeks out from the class right now. I'll be handling all of that specifying selections in the next week or so. As I said in the video about the class I just released yesterday, I'll be putting those into a post.

In the meantime, if you're really keen to get started on reading, there's nothing holding you back from reading the entire dialogue of the Protagoras (which you'd want to do eventually anyway), if you'd like to, or reading any of the other texts that aren't "selections", for example the Meno